Taraneh Haeri:
"For four or five days, it was happiness, but temporary happiness... "
Tehran, March 16, 1979
"Témoignage de Taraneh", des femmes en mouvements hebdo n°4, 30 nov 1979, page 21
Taraneh Haeri was very active in the Iranian women's movement in March 1979: "I believe there will be a second revolution in Iran, I am sure it will succeed. Luckily, I have this hope in my heart!"
This interview with Taraneh Haeri was recorded on Friday, March 16, 1979 in Tehran, at the Intercontinental Hotel, by Claudine Mulard and Sylviane Rey (Des femmes filment), with a black and white video. Our 16mm footage was already safe in Paris, and we didn't want the tape to be confiscated.On Sunday, March 18, on our way to the airport, and even though we were being officially expelled, we handed over this video to Iranians, Homa Nategh and Naser Pakdaman, at 121 Maryam Street. They smuggled it out of Iran, and we received it in Paris.Taraneh's interview was transcribed and published in the 4th issue of the weekly Des femmes en mouvements, on Friday, November 30, 1979.Like the 16mm rushes, this precious tape must be saved, digitized, and made available to all.
The interview with Taraneh belongs to the history of Iranian women in struggle.
Interview with Taraneh Haeri:
The old regime, a certain form of dictatorship has been overthrown – and here is in its place, under the name of Islam, another dictatorial regime. It's not a real revolution. Many say it is more of a coup than a revolution. I was putting up leaflets on the wall during the demonstration. A guy comes in and rips them apart. I protest: "Is this freedom? We fought for a year and a half for freedom and this is what you are doing with it. That's not really right!" So, he said to me, "Listen, I'm like that. When I don't like something, I tear it up. "That's exactly what the Savak was doing. The Shah said the same thing: "That's the way it is! And that's how it will be!"During the 3 days of insurrection, everyone stood in solidarity against the Shah. Those who wanted Khomeini and those who didn't. It was so hard to bring him down. No one thought it was going to happen in 1979. Everyone was saying, "Khomeini." But it's not that we want Khomeini or an Islamic government. Khomeini is a symbol. Someone who, for twenty years, said, "The Shah must go," and who could not be bought off either by the Shah or his agents. We created him, this Khomeini. If it hadn't been him, it would have been someone else, we would have created him too. The main thing was to bring down the Shah.But here comes Khomeini, and he is taking advantage of it. He had more and more prestige. He used this situation to push his Muslim Islamic ideas. And then, what he said from Paris was pleasing everyone: freedom of action, freedom of thought, freedom of expression... No one thought it was going to turn out this way.Now that he's in action, people want something else, they say, "They deceived us." Others said: "A religious cannot be a revolutionary. Religion is reactionary. »What is striking is that women are so much involved in this revolution. Never in the history of Iran have there been so many women in the streets, demonstrating, so many women in exile too. There were 4,000 female political prisoners. Many, many women amongst them. And they were much more tortured than the men.We will continue our struggle, we want to fight even more, even at the risk of our lives. For me, there is nothing more important!I think women are politicized. When they believe in their struggle, they are ready to give their lives. They were the most repressed under the Shah's regime, so they revolt more, they are the first to move forward... Women are ready to demonstrate against all forms of repression... Islam has always been reactionary with women, they can feel it, at least those who have begun to manifest themselves. In the family, women have always been the first to be beaten. They are not financially independent. My mother couldn't get a divorce, financially she couldn't, she had to put up with everything. And on top of that, my father was beating her.I have a girlfriend who has a 10-year-old kid. He comes to school one day and says, "I don't believe in God." His buddies ask him, "What do you mean? What does that mean, I don't believe in God? He replies, "Listen, for a year I prayed every night to get a 20." And the next day, I never had a 20. One night I thought, "Well, I'm going to learn my lesson and I'm not going to pray. I learned my lesson and the next day I got a 20. From that moment on, I realized that the God was myself! And the kid came to tell his mother: "What I want is not the Islamic republic, it's freedom..." I don't understand anything else. »This is exactly what is going to happen in Iran. Now the majority is for the Islamic republic. I am sure that the referendum will be in favor of the Islamic republic, there is no need to delude ourselves, to daydream... But in the long run, they will see that it is not God who is going to solve their problems...For four or five days, it was happiness, but temporary happiness... I learned that the women continued, in Isfahan; There were 50 of them. In many areas, they continued the movement started in the capital.In Iran, I think there are a lot of women who want to have romantic relationships with each other. There are quite a few who want it and feel it, they are very close to each other. High school girls, when they leave high school, they hold hands; As soon as they get home, as soon as they have just left each other, they call each other and they tell each other the most incredible details; everything, everything... Even when they get married, they continue to see their girlfriends. Now, I tell myself that the current system of the world doesn't want such a relationship, so close, so beautiful, because they probably know how dangerous it is for women and men to be so close, so supportive, so in love. I told you about my cousin who lived with a woman for at least ten years... Ten years, living in the same house, having a loving relationship together, unbelievable, in a situation like Iran, with so much repression on homosexuals and on people in general, it's an absolutely incredible phenomenon! I admired these women, I really admired my cousin, I really loved her very much, precisely because she could face all the repression, that they lived an incredible love like Romeo and Juliet in the 19th century. Of course, it was very hard to bear for ten years; They went their separate ways.70% of the people are considered a national minority: the Baluchis, the Kurds, the Arabs, and the Turks... 70% are not Persian!Women have risen up, as have national minorities, and all that is missing is the workers. Where there is oil, many are on strike! All these struggles are not separate. It gives you a lot of strength. I believe there will be a second revolution in Iran, I am sure it will succeed. Luckily I have this hope in my heart!I'm like, “What do I have to lose? My happiness, my life, is the struggle... If the fight is over, it's over, I'm dead. Nothing else that can satisfy me.”
Taraneh Haeri: «What is striking is that women are so much involved in this revolution. »
Tehran, March 16, 1979